and your take on said sites.. i check http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com regularly.
like this site, good for news, etc.
but much more believer-oriented (albeit anti-wt).. used to visit http://h2o.aimoo.com quite often but nothing much of substance discussed there lately.. and this one of course.. .
And your take on said sites.
I check http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com regularly. Like this site, good for news, etc. but much more believer-oriented (albeit anti-WT).
Used to visit http://h2o.aimoo.com quite often but nothing much of substance discussed there lately.
And this one of course.
How about you?
new blog post here: http://shunningmuststop.blogspot.com/.
please visit, bookmark, and forward the link to whoever you think might benefit.
questions, comments, criticism, etc.
What about non-American courts? Any precedents there?
new blog post here: http://shunningmuststop.blogspot.com/.
please visit, bookmark, and forward the link to whoever you think might benefit.
questions, comments, criticism, etc.
I think it's possible for a precedent to be set on an individual, if not organizational, basis (i.e. the policy is kept as Official Organizational procedure but exceptions made "unoficially" on a congregational basis). Once this is done, the news will make the rounds on boards such as this and it could be the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back (though some say the 16 child abuse lawsuits settled out of court by the WT will prove to be the turning point for reform, schism, or implosion).
new blog post here: http://shunningmuststop.blogspot.com/.
please visit, bookmark, and forward the link to whoever you think might benefit.
questions, comments, criticism, etc.
If the above is true, just think of how many "next-gen" JWs would have a legal out. The Society is encouraging them to get baptized younger and younger, before their minds can fully grasp the enormity of the problems of the organization. But it may be gone or reformed by the time the current bunch of 7-year old initiates turn 18 anyway. Makes me breathe a little easier when I think about my own kids.
does anybody have these quotes handy?
there have been quite a few of these the past few years.
i don't have the cd-rom on my computer at the moment (just reformatted it).
You're right. Can't remember the date, but a recent KM stated very clearly that there was "no need" for any individual JWs to prepare a website regarding their beliefs and that the official Watchtower website was sufficient. Sad, really... they've alienated probably the last capable apologist they had (Greg Stafford) and make virtually no attempt at apologeticism themselves. Just keep repeating the mantra of the dangers of the Internet.
take a look at most religions: if you change a doctrine here or there, it usually makes little difference.. you can be a catholic and take birth control.
you can believe in evolution and still be active in most.
protestant churches.. but what about the "truth"?
The current GB members have been carefully hand-picked to ensure that another Ray Franz scenario will never occur again. And it may not on the GB level, but expect to see more and more "E-Watchman" types (those who claim to be of the anointed but believe the leadership is corrupt) come out of the woodwork. People like this are just as dangerous, as many R&F are more willing to listen to them than flat-out "apostates" who tell you to just get the hell out of the org. If the WT does not reform for the better soon, the "anointed" can and will cause another 1980, from which the organization will not recover due to the proliferation of the internet. If the current GB are dead-set in the ways, the religion will eventually dwindle to a handful of hard-core Rutherford types who will be too small a cult to be anything but a harmless historical footnote. It is, I believe, inevitable.
now that you're mentally out of the religion, do you have an expressed goal regarding the witnesses?
do you want to expose the religion for the fraud that it is (like i do)?.
do you want to set up a ministry devoted toward the destruction of everything watchtower?.
A break in the shunning policy - if only on an individual basis - and if only in the case of voluntary disassociation - will be, I believe, the catalyst for the dam of free thought to burst so meaningful reform can take place. Everything else should eventually fall into place after that.
now that you're mentally out of the religion, do you have an expressed goal regarding the witnesses?
do you want to expose the religion for the fraud that it is (like i do)?.
do you want to set up a ministry devoted toward the destruction of everything watchtower?.
To get the courts to recognize the immediate threat the shunning policy presents to an individual's mental and emotional health and well-being. Not everybody who faces the prospect of shunning will commit suicide, but some have, and anybody who has done so is one too many. See the following thread: //http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/144351/1.ashx
new blog post here: http://shunningmuststop.blogspot.com/.
please visit, bookmark, and forward the link to whoever you think might benefit.
questions, comments, criticism, etc.
New blog post here: http://shunningmuststop.blogspot.com/. Please visit, bookmark, and forward the link to whoever you think might benefit. Questions, comments, criticism, etc. welcome. If anybody has any legal expertise, here is your venue.
i found this while perusing through old golden ages at the new york public library.
it is so patently ridiculous and offensive, i thought i'd just post the thing without comment.
*** g27 11/30 pp.
Every word printed in the Revelation and Isaiah books. Totally WT-centric insanity. Although my favorite line has to be from an article I remember on masturbation back in the early-mid-80s (probably 1984, if memory serves). Seems like they had several articles on the subject right around that time. Regarding whether it was really a serious sin or not, it reasoned - I swear I am not making this up (but then again I was just a wee lad so my recollection may not be perfect): "Would you masturbate in front of the congregation?" How in the hell do you even begin to reply to such an asinine question?
BTW, ten bucks to whoever can find the article first ;)
